It has been established by the Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu International Union Ltd. that Cheung Hung Sing is the Original Founder of Choy Lay Fut and that the author's (Doc Fai Wong) two teachers, Lau Bun and Hu Yuen Cheok (Wu Van Cheuk) were students of Chan Ngau Sing and Yuen Hai who were disciples of CHEUNG HUNG SING (Cheung Yim) and therefore of the Hung Sing martial arts branch (of Cheung Hung Sing). Lau Bun was a Hung Sing man and his sifu Yuen Hai was Cheung Yim's student. What did the author's teacher Lau Bun tell him about the Hung Sing martial arts of his sifu Yuen Hai (student of Cheung Hung Sing)? Yuen Hai was a Hung Sing Choy Lay Fut martial arts teacher of the Chueng Hung Sing branch! Since the authors' teachers Lau Bun and Hu Yuen Cheuk were Hung Sing disciples and his other two teachers Wong Gong and Wong Wing Sum are of the Chan Heung lineage, he (the author) can't retract his story (that the Futsan Hung Sing Gwoon is a fictional story) even though it's been clearly established by the Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu International Union Ltd. that Cheung Hung Sing is the True Originator of Choy Lay Fut. It's obvious Doc Fai Wong believes that Cheung Yim was a student of Chan Heung - TRUE, but who told and convinced him that Chan Heung was Choy Lay Fut's ORIGINAL founder?

The late elder Hu Yuen Cheok (Wu Van Cheuk) whom the author claimed as his latter day sifu was a prolific writer affiliated to the Chan Clan branch of Choy Lay Fut. It's been known that he (Wu) began his martial arts training at age 9 under Chan Ngau Sing, the 2nd generation and top disciple of Cheung Yim (Hung Sing). Later Wu Van Cheuk followed Chan Yiu Chi (3rd generation Choy Lay Fut and grandson of Chan Heung). Strangely, Wu Van Cheuk (Hu Yuan Cheok) has always been addressed as a 4th generation elder (after his second teacher Yiu Chi). His association with Chan Ngau Sing (Hung Sing branch) was played down! In Chinese martial arts a student is always placed in the generation line of Hierarchy after that of his FIRST official teacher - ie. a student of a 4th generation master automatically becomes a 5th generation disciple. His sifu Wu Van Cheuk was a member of the Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu International Union Ltd. in Hong Kong and he knew well of the clarification on Choy Lay Fut's history regarding who is the original founder of Choy Lay Fut. How come he didn't dispute it or object to that declaration made by the Choy Lay Fut Union - why?! The Choy Lay Fut Union had adopted a very balanced stance in order to "keep face" for the Chan Clan as Chan Heung was acknowledged as the Chi Jo (like the ancestor).

CLARIFICATION ON THE CORRECT USE OF THE NAME "HUNG SING CHOY LAY FUT"

"Hung Sing" is the name of the Originator of Choy Lay Fut (Cheung Hung Sing) and therefore, the only name that can come before "Choy Lay Fut." Apart from that, no other names should come before "Choy Lay Fut." My elders have asked me to make clear this clarification.

WHY WAS THE "HUNG SING" NAME USED?

WAS IT TO HONOR OR COMMEMORATE SOMEONE?

NOTE: Chan Clan's records, Chan Koon Pak was only 7 years old when his father Chan Heung left for America in 1864 (at age 59). He returned home to King Mui 4 years later in 1868 at age 63. By then he was too weary to do much (unlike his last teacher Choy Fook who was SUPER FIT and full of energy at age 96 and was able to teach Chan Heung martial arts for 10 YEARS!) and left the running of the gwoons to his disciples. So Yong Fa was correct in saying that the Hung Sing name had been used by the Chan Clan, especially by Chan Koon Pak, BUT in memory of his teacher Chueng Hung Sing and NOT Chan Heung! And the character for HUNG was that of "Ying Hung" -hero. The first and Original Hung Sing Gwoon was established in Futsan in 1839 by Cheung Hung Sing and his name was used for his school.

Footnote: In the 25th Anniversary edition of the Singapore Hong Sheng Koon memorial magazine there is a photo of the Chan Clan members of the Hung Sing Cho Gwoon (with the Chinese character "HUNG" as in "Ying Hung" - hero) presenting a picture of Chan Heung to the Singapore Hong Sheng Koon (Hung Sing Gwoon) in 1971.

LUNG CHI CHOI & YUEN HAI - DISCIPLES OF CHEUNG YIM
NOT CHAN HEUNG!!

The author of the book "Choi Li Fut Kung Fu" in his bid to debunk the statement that Chan Heung's village forbid "outsiders" to train in martial arts in the Chan Ancestral Hall, MENTIONED that there were infact "outsiders" (not of the Chan Clan) who were "disciples of Chan Heung", namely Lung Chi Choi and Yuen Hai (the Hung Sing people can name a few more). What he failed to take into account was that these "outsiders" were actually true blooded Hung Sing disciples and NOT Chan Heung¹s disciples! How can we prove that?

It has long been established that in the Chan Clan records they virtually put in every well known name under their roof - including TARM SARM!! Tarm was listed as a disciple of Chan Koon Pak!! (I have a copy of that). Everybody (maybe not) knows that Tarm Sarm's teacher was LUI CHARN and Lui Charn was one of Cheung Hung Sing's top disciples. Many elders can verify that, including grandmaster Lun Chee who is still alive and well at 92 years of age. Now, Yuen Hai too was a disciple of Cheung Yim. Students of Lau Bun can tell you that or don't they know? It is only in the family spirit of Choy Lay Fut that the Hung Sing schools (Cheung Hung Sing's Lineage) didn't object to the listing of Hung Sing disciples' names being included in the Chan Clan records when they first set up the "Association in Memory of Chan Heung" (to help the Chan Association look good with a longer list of Choy Lay Fut disciples names). But the later generations of the Chan Family Choy Lay Fut branch who know nothing of the background, is taking this as the Gospel Truth! Be honest, how credible is the records of the Chan Clan? Doc Fei and Yong Fa must realize that this "List of Names" is not one that was passed down from one generation to the next, but compiled by elders of the Chan Heung schools when the "Association in Memory of Chan Heung" was set up in Hong Kong in 1971 when Mao Tse Tung was still alive. Chan Yong Fa was living in China (Canton?) at that time (31 years ago) and would have been 20 years old then. He should know that nobody would have the time or want to risk being sent for rehabilitation by propagating Choy Lay Fut in China during that period. It would be asinine to compile a list like that or have in one's possession. It was the Choy Lay Fut elders in Hong Kong that compiled that list of names. In a letter addressed to me by a well respected and highly esteemed elder in my fraternity, he said this - "I venture to think that if Dave Lacey had lived during that era with the greats of Choy Lay Fut, he too would be listed under the Chan Clan. They won¹t leave out any famed fighter from their stock!" - unquote.